As a long term investor, one should be concerned with two things while buying a stock,
Courtesy of internet, screens, forums, list of bloggers on this blog the the chances of you coming across good businesses and stock ideas is pretty high (serendipity). So without much effort the first point is taken care of.- Quality of the Business
- Price at which one buys the stock
It is on the second point that divergence appear amongst investors, and it appears more so in case when we are talking of stocks on high growth path.
For last few days I have been struggling to solve this problem of "what price to pay for growth" until i bumped onto one of the blogs of Aswath Damodaran ( If anyone wants to learn valuation, please go through his lectures. They are free and brilliant). The link to these blogs are here and here
Based on the blog I ran the test on 5 companies, who meet probably all criteria of a quality business. These were: Amara Raja, Astral Poly, Atul Auto, GRP and Kaveri Seeds.
Before, jumping to conclusions of the test let me first share the methodology here.
Step: 1 : Find out the enterprise value of the stock ( Mcap+Debt- Cash)
Step: 2: If we assume that company doesn't do any growth going forward then it can pay the entire income out to stockholders as dividends and as interest to lenders.In this case, operating income from the most recent period will be cash flow each year in perpetuity. The value of these cash flows can be computed by discounting back at a cost of capital to yield a value for assets in place.By doing this we know what is the value of assets which company holds now.
Step 3: This involves calculating the value of assets which are required for growth. To calculate this we would need the following inputs
Step 4: The difference between EV(Step 1) and Value of Assets( Step 2) gives us the price which we are paying for growth.
Step 5: Comparing price found in step 4 with value of assets for growth( Step 3) will give us an indication whether this stock is overpriced/cheap/fairly valued.
The results of my analysis courtesy Prof. Damodaran are given below. Also attached is the link for excel sheet with all calculations. It is a modified version of what Prof. has shared on his blog.
* For Atul Auto RoC is average of last 3 years.
The link for the excel sheet is here. One can modify all the input parameters into the sheet to see at what price/growth rate/RoC does a stock become overvalued or cheap.
Has this solved my conundrum? Yes, but i have fallen into another conundrum of a few biases :(. More on that later
Till then Happy "growth" Investing.
Regards,
Saurabh
PS- Invested in Atul Auto, GRP & Kaveri Seeds, although all are very small positions as of now.
Based on the blog I ran the test on 5 companies, who meet probably all criteria of a quality business. These were: Amara Raja, Astral Poly, Atul Auto, GRP and Kaveri Seeds.
Before, jumping to conclusions of the test let me first share the methodology here.
Step: 1 : Find out the enterprise value of the stock ( Mcap+Debt- Cash)
Step: 2: If we assume that company doesn't do any growth going forward then it can pay the entire income out to stockholders as dividends and as interest to lenders.In this case, operating income from the most recent period will be cash flow each year in perpetuity. The value of these cash flows can be computed by discounting back at a cost of capital to yield a value for assets in place.By doing this we know what is the value of assets which company holds now.
Step 3: This involves calculating the value of assets which are required for growth. To calculate this we would need the following inputs
- Expected growth rate: I have assumed 25% for all the 5 companies
- Expected Return on Capital: I have taken average last 5 years as an indicator for this.
- Length of Growth: I have assumed 5 years,since all of them operate and have strengths to deliver growth for long periods.
- Reinvestment Rate: For a company to grow it needs to reinvest money it earns into business which can be calculated as Reinvestment Rate= Expected growth rate/RoC
Step 4: The difference between EV(Step 1) and Value of Assets( Step 2) gives us the price which we are paying for growth.
Step 5: Comparing price found in step 4 with value of assets for growth( Step 3) will give us an indication whether this stock is overpriced/cheap/fairly valued.
The results of my analysis courtesy Prof. Damodaran are given below. Also attached is the link for excel sheet with all calculations. It is a modified version of what Prof. has shared on his blog.
Inputs | Amara Raja | Astral | Atul Auto | GRP | Kaveri |
Growth Rate | 25.00% | 25.00% | 25.00% | 25.00% | 25.00% |
RoC ( Avg. 5 years) | 31.00% | 21.80% | 30.00%* | 29.40% | 20.00% |
Growth Period | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 |
Cost of Capital | 15.00% | 15.00% | 15.00% | 15.00% | 15.00% |
Stock Price | 239 | 310 | 114 | 1603 | 1073.00 |
Outputs ( In Crs) | |||||
Enterprise Value | 3918 | 727 | 121 | 269 | 1361 |
Value of Assets in Place | 1442 | 322 | 107 | 159 | 427 |
Value of Assets for Growth | 1107 | 149 | 80 | 116 | 159 |
Price Paid for Growth | 2476 | 405 | 13 | 111 | 934 |
Price Paid/Value | 2.24 | 2.71 | 0.17 | 0.96 | 5.89 |
The link for the excel sheet is here. One can modify all the input parameters into the sheet to see at what price/growth rate/RoC does a stock become overvalued or cheap.
Has this solved my conundrum? Yes, but i have fallen into another conundrum of a few biases :(. More on that later
Till then Happy "growth" Investing.
Regards,
Saurabh
PS- Invested in Atul Auto, GRP & Kaveri Seeds, although all are very small positions as of now.
Nice article.
ReplyDeleteCan you comment on the upper limit for the Price Paid/Value ratio. Till what ratio i.e. premium one should pay ?
Hi,
ReplyDeleteI am not sure we can fix a upper limit, but for me I don't think I will go beyond 1.5 times. This limit will vary from person to person as someone who thinks a company can grow at more than 25% for more than 5 years will be ready to pay a higher premium.
Regards
Good learning from same prof. http://www.businessinsider.com/aswath-damodaran-valuation-guide-2012-4#-3
ReplyDeleteThought of sharing as you mentioned his name :-)
Btw good post on PHL
Thanks achin for the link.
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